tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245279442880338057.post2444141774622278409..comments2023-11-26T01:12:05.167-08:00Comments on Materials for Two Theories: TIMN and STA:C: Bauwens’ “partner state” (part 3 of 3) . . . vis à vis TIMNDavid Ronfeldthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06488855410947866567noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245279442880338057.post-12682125536313831712011-11-23T08:00:01.845-08:002011-11-23T08:00:01.845-08:00The Atlantic comment should be of interest - Occup...The Atlantic comment should be of interest - Occupy protests are about the occupation of time as they are of space. <br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/the-implicit-critique-of-technology-in-the-occupy-protests/248835/eddie/shiqinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10353882486144821554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245279442880338057.post-16737803221379594192011-10-29T10:57:53.412-07:002011-10-29T10:57:53.412-07:00touche, fouche. that’s an excellent point. i’ve ...touche, fouche. that’s an excellent point. i’ve long opined that the rise of each form is initiated and propelled by bad guys as much as good guys. and charles tilly has a famous article somewhere arguing that the early state was tantamount to a criminal organization. your point is even more expansive. and as you may have noticed, i lifted it for inclusion in a collection of apropos quotes in a later post here about the occupy protests. i don’t know yet what i may try to do with your point, or how much i’m in agreement with it without qualification, but i sure like it. many thanks.David Ronfeldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06488855410947866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4245279442880338057.post-55477277530402498222011-10-19T23:42:51.681-07:002011-10-19T23:42:51.681-07:00I've come around to the opinion that human org...I've come around to the opinion that human organizations tend to converge on those forms that best support the application of violent power. In a TIMN context, this would probably mean that the shift from the T+ to the T+I to the T+I+M to the full quadriform was driven primarily by the advantages in coercive power that mastery of those forms bestowed. The full TIMN stack would probably converge around those networked (+N) social forms that best allowed the application of violence. <br /><br />Adam Elkus is of the opinion that "Cyberocracy, Cyberspace, and Cyberology", "Cyberocracy", and "Cyberwar is Coming!" are still the cutting edge of work in the field of emerging networked violence. Most of the stuff written since then has been written b industry shills. You and Arquilla were so a head of the pack that there was no one to sell out to even if you'd wanted to.Joseph Fouchehttp://committeeofpublicsafety.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com